Faus: “There’s only €45 million for transfers, so no €60 million Cesc”
“If we don’t sell anyone, not that we intend to, we will have a maximum of 45 million [euros] for transfers,” FC Barcelona economic vice-president Xavier Faus told Catalan Radio RAC1 last night.
In recent weeks there has been speculation from England that Daniel Alves could be signing for Manchester City, but Faus said the club is doing everything it can to hold on to the player: “We’re looking for creative ways so Alves gets to be the fifth or sixth highest paid player in the squad.”
And because of that constraint, the club will not get into a bidding war for the services of Arsenal’s Catalan-born Cesc Fabregas, who British tabloid ‘Sun’ said is worth €60 million to Chelsea FC’s owner Roman Abramovich.
“We cannot pay what is being said [by the paper] for whatever player, and we don’t know what was negotiated when he renewed [his contract] with Arsenal,” he said, [ED. Obviously perplexed at the high numbers being touted by some in the British media for a player who has yet to win any trophy in the last five season.]
His statement mirrored that of Raul Sanllehi, Barca’s director of football, who told British-based ‘Telegraph’ he was “surprised” that Chelsea is willing to pay €60 million for Liverpool’s Fernando Torres.
“That’s a very high amount. [This new] Barca [board] would never make a signing like that. We would not even consider it,” he affirmed.
I agree a player market value can be very subjective .Here is a link to a site that covers this subject extensively. http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/fc-barcelona/st…
According to this site, Keita' s market value is estimated at 12,320,000 M . Messi is listed at the top of the list at 100,000,000 M . I doubt if Barça would ever sell him even at his buy-out-clause of 250,000,000 !!
grow up matyrze
Hum, i have to say a BIG NO to Neymar and not yet for fabregas. I agree that a loan on bojan and jeffren could be good. and yeah villa is not scooring alot but he is the reason why the other players are scooring that much. villa is hot!
Andy Carroll is priced at 20 million euros by transfermarket.
Pique left a year after Cesc and returned to become our key player. What sort of lesson do you want to be? A lesson for all our youngsters who leave the club and play well, become important and grow to be world class player?
club gowing under and the ONLY way to wave it is by selling Messi… OMG GOD FÖRBID!
omg, thnx god u dont take care of the transfers
Wait, somebody expected Barça to pay 60 million for a sub? lol
But then again, they did pay 45 + A perfect striker for us for a complete mismatch of a striker.
why all this talk about Cesc… it is absolutely crystal clear to me that he does NOT want to play for Barca, he just wants trophies. We have this player by the name of Thiago… and I'm sure everyone will forget about Cesc soon… I hope!
And was it this board? No… It was the former, so your point does not make sense.
People here who are condemning Cesc's transfer will be the first ones to post here "Welcome to Barca" etc. Why don't you shut up, have trust to the board and see what happens?
It's actually laughable to compare Affellay with Cesc.
aren't we selling ibra?
I'm not sure whether you are for or against my comment but anywhere… I have and never will compare any player with any as ALL of them are their own person and different, even if they are twins. Abilities whether mental, physical etc can never be compared.
So here goes… Afellay can always get better. He may never be at Xavi level but that too goes for Cesc or anyone else OR they could be even better. Only time will tell.
Xavi will be with us for at least 2 3 years, enough time for Afellay and Thiago to develop their abilities until the time Cesc contract with Arsenal expires. Then, whether he comes back home or not is irrelevant. Thiago and Afellay will have adapted themselves fully into the team, that playing COLLECTIVELY, as a team, they could even be better, maybe not on a personal level when compared to Cesc.
But that said, I'm pretty sure a more mature Cesc in 3 years time will give this team awesome capabilities. By that time players like Pique, Pedro and Leo will be at their prime, and Thiago, Afellay, possibly Bojan, Jeffren finally get their chance to shine, and there'll be new bloods from the quarry. So, again collective input is much more important than personal contribution, no matter how good.
this is not worry, im hopping pep will get the team motivated and play like we did against madrid, no matter how good the other team is we have the ability to stop them even touching the ball, and we have abidal
i hope we get him in 2 seasons so that will give thiago chance to grow in the first team and by then xavi will be 32/33 and wont be able to play as much, but at the moment we dont need him especially for 60million
Maxwell for Puyol is a clear weakening of our team, no matter how you guy spin it.
Afellay is actually older than Cesc though.
Actualy Close would be a dream striker for barcelona a cuple of years ago.
The man has an instinct to be at the right place at the right time. hes to old now unless something terrible happens to Villa or Pedro. Than a short deal would be perfect. But god forbid a scenario like this.
i gues the 24mil is taken into consideration.
its funny to see people actually talk about Cesc as if he is our player. Please remember that Cesc is an Arsenal player and will be on contract till 2014. now thats far off. by then so many things could change. he could lose form dramatically, or others like Thiago and Afellay could be the next Balon d'Ors. we dont know what will happen.
we should respect Arsenal and stay off Cesc. they dont want to sell him. Even if they did, the money we offered is not good enough. so forget it. no point talking about it, unless we are actually ready to shell out whatever Arsenal want. otherwise, the player is Arsenal's to keep. end of story.
there;s no need to act like thugs and expect Arsenal to just hand him over for cheap. thats like extortion. we need to have more class than that.
and milito henrique and cacerz n hleb if they get buyers
to House MD
It will be bad to trade Mascherano who wanted to play here and doesn't moan for being on the bench for Cesc who left us long time ago. NO for Cesc. Keita renewed hhis contract to 2014, his contract doesn't end in 2012, it's GOal.com fake story.
seems like u r a doctor….. thnx for the explanation………. Hope Puyol can play……… if not …. i have confidence on Maxwell …….
We cam have a cheaper Cesc by the time when Xavi ll be in the verge of retirement……. & Cesc ll be in the verge of Contract expiration………… lol..
With Cesc, we will remain invincibles in 2-3 years. Affellay is not Xavi's "successor". Only Cesc is the closest thing compared to Xavi.
We know Affelay. He is not world class. We need a world class replacement. We will have to wait for Thiago. People here already saying that he is the next Xavi. As most of them were saying that Giovanni Dos Santos is the new Messi, and Bojan is the new Raul. We all saw where they ended up to.
However, Cesc's value is undisputable, we know his ability and we must sign him this summer. Xavi already suffer from Tenonditis, and he's 31. Soon he won't be able to play 2 matches per week, and sure Affelay is not a proper replacement.
With Cesc, we will remain invincibles in 2-3 years. Affellay is not Xavi's "successor". Only Cesc is the closest thing compared to Xavi.
We know Affelay. He is not world class. We need a world class replacement. We will have to wait for Thiago. People here already saying that he is the next Xavi. As most of them were saying that Giovanni Dos Santos is the new Messi, and Bojan is the new Raul. We all saw where they ended up to.
However, Cesc's value is undisputable, we know his ability and we must sign him this summer. Xavi's suffering from Tenonditis, and he's 31. Soon he won't be able to play 2 matches per week, and sure Affelay is not a proper replacement.
57 mill is 3 mill short of the 60 mil Arsenal are demanding..and you do realize that if Keita has to leave because of lack of playing time then Cesc would barely be any better because he would be on the bench quite alot as well..
He could mean that our net spending is that much. Dont forget that we are going to get 24M for Zlatan and the transfer budget was supposed to be "30M" in 2009 but in the end we spent nearly 100M. He could be playing mind games, now Arsenal realizes that Barca wont pay over 50M for Cesc, but if he joins Chelsea instead then we will never get him back
One of the more sensible comments on this topic!!
I would really like this people to STOP giving confidential information over the press… it was never out before how much we have to spend!!
I kind of agree with you. It's like press assume we're going after Cesc, which they have been saying for about 3 years and never become reality. But this time, I don't know if they're doing it to put pressure in Arsenal (which is wrong..), but we're not putting pressure saying we have less money than chelsea..
I think Cesc's manager must have a close friend and contacts in Barcelona press since , without doing so much this season, he is on again with a possible transfer. For me, this player only wants to improve his earnings using Barça. As Adebayor did, as Rooney did, as Henry did before coming, etc. etc.
i really think we dont need cesc now…who we need now is players like Edison Cavani and/or Javier Pastore…………..we still have Xavi and we can also manage Affelay in critical situation where Xavi is not available for now
Cesc is just any other good midfielder. Barcelona are not interested in another midfielder, and Cesc doesn't belong to us anymore than Xabi Alonso does. If there comes a time in a few years when Barcelona are in the market for a creative midfielder, they will make a list of possible players. And Cesc will probably be just another name on the list, with no special preference. The media will make false reports of Barca-Cesc contact everyday, and everyone will be surprised when the new player bought will be someone completely different, someone who fulfills the club's needs at that moment more then Cesc does. And two years after that, there will be some people who will think that the team does not have strong enough backup for the midfield positions, and they will demand the transfer of Cesc for 100-125 million euros, because, according to them, having one of the world's most expensive players on the bench is an absolute necessity, even if the truth is that Barca will already have sufficient cover.
I see nobody cares about Pep's opinion. It's not a secret that he wanted Cesc last summer and he'll want him as long as he's Barca's coach. Also Messi, Xavi ,Iniesta, Pique,Puyol, Villa want him but the most important opinion is Pep's opinion. So why all this conversation? He'll decide.
I'd love to have Cesc, really… but not for 45 million, especially if that's all we've got to spend. We do have other needs and that's too much for a player who will start on the bench. Let him get a bit closer to the end of his contract, the price will go down.
for me the question concerning cesc fabregas is not if we need him. at the moment it actually seems that we don't. we have high debts. we only have 2 central/attacking midfielder positions in our line-up and one of them will be occupied by andres iniesta, the most elegant player since zinedine zidane, for years to come. the other position is occupied by xavi, who isn't the youngest player around but still on the peak of his abillities. as a replacement for him we have thiago alcantara, a young player with unbelievable talent. so, if we analyze the situation in an unemotional manner we shouldn't try to sign fabregas because a) we're short of money b) we don't seem to need him. right? right.
nevertheless i absolutely favour an attempt to sign him. why? because he isn't just "any player". he is barcelonas lost son. he is the one player of this golden barca generation containing players like messi, pique, pedro and busquets that didn't stay with us (ok, pique is a special case). and i am pretty sure, if you can believe the words of xavi or puyol, that he does want to come back. he wants to come back to the club that he really belongs to. (i'm metaphorically speaking, of course he is under contract with arsenal and barcelona should respect that.)
so, let us assume for one moment that we do sign him in the summer. we will have the lost son back home and we will have another world class attacking midfielder. in my opinion there are three barca players who will be affected by this and who will compete with cesc for the place next to iniesta: xavi, affellay and thiago. i think xavi isn't the problem (he is the one always advocating fabregas return, thinking of his age and that barcelona (hopefully) will have to play a game every three days he will be just fine with the idea of rotating with him) and neither is affellay (he is a very good player, but not on the same level as iniesta, xavi or cesc). the problem is thiago. he will have less playing time if cesc arrives. but thinking of the most intense game rhythm while playing league, copa del rey and champions league, i think that they will both get plenty of playing time (iniesta would get more rest too. the tendon problems of some players show us that they need more rest).
(i'm really sorry for the long post)
I am not against the idea of getting Cesc but this is going to far. Why everytime there’s something about transfer or something about a player not doing right we are talking bout someone else?? On my last check, this team we have now is the BEST in the moment. They still alive in each competition they are in. They still cover each other’s back very well so whats up with all this long lasting Cesc saga? can’t we just wellcome the new comer (if any) goodbye to the one who leaves(if any) and enjoy the game t hey gifted us with??
Cesc should be punished for not forcing his move last year like Mach did. If he wanted to join Barca as bad as he claimed he wanted to, he would have made that move happen. Now that Chelsea bought Torres for 58 mil(not even worth that much) they think that Cesc is worth more? I don't think so. He hasn't won anything with the Arsenal, plus at the moment Nasri is outplaying him. Hope Barca leaves him in Arsenal and get him free when his contract runs out. Next time he will learn that if Barca calls accept right away coz u might not have another opportunity (ask Ribery), even if you only going to be a bench warmer.
But still, what it comes down to is 25 million for a bench player? that's not the smartest thing to do. Even though cesc would fit right back in a barca, He wont want to go from captain to bench player.
I was thinking that same phrase yesterday about this situation, "If it ain't broke don't fix it"
End of the day it's a job, and he is under contract which HE signed. He can't 'force' a move, thats completely disrespectful to the fans and all those you worked with, and possibly illegal. But as you said, if he really wants to come, let him wait it out and come on a free
Problem with this is that our strikers and CBs can also get injured and also need rest. If we spend our entire transfer budget on Cesc we leave both of those positions very thin, especially if Milito leaves. We already have good backup in the midfield, need to focus on the positions that most need depth. $45 million would buy a good reserve striker and a good CB… then think about Cesc next year, as long as no other major gaps develop.
It is unfortunate that fabregas will not come, he is a very good player .. but there's still time to decide whether he will come or not : D
Love for your team, not love with somebody in Arsenal team, remember this Cesc is Arsenal player not Barca player, so If I dont love him,theres wrong with that??? Or you are just like other mindless cules all over the world who thinks that Cesc is ours…. hahaha
but better………Cesc is just overrated douche
i think as a rational analysis what you are saying is absolutely right. although i would say if alves leaves our defense problem is not to find a center back, but a new world class right wing-back. and as a reserve striker we need a Eiður Guðjohnsen-like guy as a plan b for the final minutes of a game against a very well defending team.
the thing is that my main point about cesc isn't a rational one. i visited barcelona a year ago and i remember being in a big sports/football shop. and which player poster hang on every wall? not messi, not ibrahimovic, not iniesta. it was fabregas. and the same with the dozens of little street shops selling fake player shirts: messi, ibra AND fabregas! those things reminded me a lot of the lost son-story and for me the emotional relationship between the city, the barca players and cesc is the main reason for getting him back. not because we need him, but because he should be a member of this team.