Johan Cruyff stripped of Barcelona honorary president title
According to the Spanish paper El Periodico, Johan Cruyff has been stripped of his title as honorary president of FC Barcelona. In the past, it has become fairly obvious that Sandro Rosell was not a big fan of Joan Laporta or Johan Cruyff, and it did not take long for Barca’s new president to strip Cruyff of his honorary title. Joan Laporta, former president of FC Barcelona, gave Cruyff the title in April 2010.
Rosell claimed at that time that the decision was undemocratic, and claimed that the club members should have been given the right to vote on such an appointment. Barcelona’s new spokesman for the board of directors, Toni Freixa, said this on the club’s behalf: “On the 26th of March the board agreed to name Cruyff president of honour, but article 16 only contemplates members of honour. It does not fit in with the statutes and they would have to be modified to contemplate such a figure.”
This mean that Barcelona’s members may in the future be able to choose if they want an honorary president. And if they decide they want the title, they can then choose who it will be given to.
Que categoria que tiene este pijo Sandro … la mala leche se le ve a leguas
what a classless act. rosell should be ashamed.
Yes. This is so pointless move.
Well he does have a point. The title should have been voted by the socis. He's just trying to be diplomatic although I believe if it did came to a vote Cruyff would have won it. At least I would have voted for him.
He's not being diplomatic. This move stems from old Nunyez alliances and the dichotomy in Barca camps between Nun and Cruijff."Honorary President" is a title that holds virtually no weight, so unless Rosell feels challenged by Cruijff, there would be no reason to remove it.
This is not only pointless, but also very very emberassing. How could you possibly do this without being ashamed of yourself? JC brought the philosophy to this wonderful club. He is the reason we have some many successes. Of course Its not confirmed we have to wait.
Is El Periodico a Madrid based newspaper? Would make alot of difference for me.
i said it i have a feeling this guy is going to fuck up barca… i said it!! here it goes!!!
whether the title was laporta's to give out or not, surely this did not need to be one of sandro rosell's first acts as club president. embarassing.
Absolutely despicable and arrogant act. I agree with you wholeheartedly. This is how he humiliates a man who has served Barca with such distinction both as a Player and a Coach!! Am I missing something here? The word " Honorary' is a title conferred out of Respect for someone and by definition doesn't have the duties, privileges and pay of an actual functioning President so why did he need the boards approval for his honorary status?
I miss our good old Steven Seagal already
People elected him because they knew his name. Welcome to the Nou Gaspart era.
WHAT?? I hope this isn t true . Johan deserve to be our Honorary President. He is great as a person and he means a lot for our club ! He was memorable as a player and as a coach too. It would be a big mistake for Rosell if this is true
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This is total bull$hit!!!Cruyff has done nothing to be stripped of this he has done so much for this club and this is how that FAG Rosell treats him….Cules should hav a say in this matter ….u…u….ahhhhhh…am so frickin pissed!!!!
Yep this is the bastard they voted for !!!
we are moving up to Real… the arrogant way…
Mes que un club…. with this president….. FORGETT IT.
No new Culé membership for me aslong this bastard is president !!!!!!!!!
Ok, bye!
Barcafan6000 is so stupid… i just read his comment on the yaya post and he was like: "Who the hell is pep? Did he ever win the treble?"
What a dumbass!!! how old is this barcafan6000??? he just pissed me off!!!
go and die.i am 52 years old in case you want to know.it took barca almost 40 years before they finally win the cl.If players like pep were the best how come barca did not win the league for about six years before van bomel and motta came
52 my ass!!! stop posting comments coz more you post, more you're embarrassing yourself, more people hate you!!!! first of all the first time they won it was in 1992 so i don't know which 40 years you're talking about… FYI, Guardiola left in 2000 and the last time Barca won the league before the Frank Rijkaard era was in the 1998/1999 season… And you'll probably die way before me if you're really 52… I'M GUESSING YOU'RE NOT REALLY GOOD WITH NUMBERS!!!!
Hey barcafan6000,, did you accept your losing or what???? Because you don't post anything after KAYR post comment…………..If you a guy act like a guy, don't run away
lol heyy barcafan6000 plzz be around next year wen ur 53 lol so u can see ur flop become he King of the club(because messi is the Ace lol.)… oo yeap i mean zlatan!!…
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wait, after all your gibberish, you choose to correct "the"? priceless.
Oh well if anything I expected Sandro to do something like this. I think I was one of rare people who didn't want him for president. Like someone before me said. They knew his name and voted automatically for him.
I hate him being our president and if I didn't have a reason till now, here it is. Cruyff deserved this title more than anyone and Sandro isn't a god and he can't just take it away from him. I hope Cruyff carries it in his heart from now on. He didn't deserve to be stripped of it and I support him all the way through. Good luck with Catalan team and Sandro I hope to see some great things from you. I really don't want to say:"I told you so!"
Didn't Rosell said well before he won that he did not like the title honorary president and that the fans should have voted for it?
I don't care what he said, Laporta gave this title to Cruyff with a reason and he can't just take it away. It's unbelievable.
And the other thing is I started to dislike this man when he said he's considering to take off Unicef and find a new kit sponsor for Barca. After 110 years without one he's considering to find one.
That is impossible. We are known of being without it and having Unicef you can't do what he wants to!
And what was the percentage of socios who were in favor of giving him that? I seem to remember it was 70% against and yet Laporta still did it?
How many socios wanted Laporta out before the treble?
Socios are easy to sway, you tell them what they want to hear. Rosell is a salesman. He is a demagogue. He craves power. He quit as Vice President because he didn't have as much power as he wanted within the Laporta alliance.
laporta is gone so let's allow rosell to be in control
52 my ass!!! stop posting comments coz more you post, more you're embarrassing yourself, more people hate you!!!! first of all the first time they won it was in 1992 so i don't know which 40 years you're talking about… FYI, Guardiola left in 2000 and the last time Barca won the league before the Frank Rijkaard era was in the 1998/1999 season… And you'll probably die way before me if you're really 52… I'M GUESSING YOU'RE NOT REALLY GOOD WITH NUMBERS!!!!
hey Barca fan6000, act like a guy, don't run away
you know i think you are madrid fan trying to confuse some of us. guess what you can call yourself whatever you want but you will never be a barca fan!, you can say what ever you want you will never hurt us!
heyyy i didnt want him either lol… so ur not alone lol.. and yes u will say "i told you so".. and den ur not gonna be the only one lol.. im goin to say it too…lol oo wait nahh i think i already said it lol. …
i don't really like that guy. i don't know why most of the members had voted for him. laporta & txiki & cruyff are the people that made that barca. now all 3 are gone and we have a person we all don't really know. we don't know where this barca will end.
"Barça will be supporting the demonstration on July 10 at the Constituional Tribunal regarding the Statute for Catalunya. Sandro Rosell will be travelling to South Africa that day, and so the club will be represented by the vice president of the Social Area, Jordi Cardoner, and directors Jordi Moix and Pilar Guinovart. "
Just got this from the official website. While I agree with Barca supporting the Statute of Autonomy, I would like to point out that Rosell is such a hypocrite. He's the one who said that Laporta was politicising and now he's doing the same thing.
Guys this was expected… I mean i hate the guy but we must support him… he's right, if the board really wants cruijff as honorary president then they'll vote and they'll be no problem… that's all!!! You guys make it sound as if it's definitive!!! he's just giving the socis more power…
One small problem. The words they use suggest that the BOARD get to vote, both for the position and for the person filling it. The board, however, does not necessarily represent the view of the socios.
oh i didn't know that!!! i thought the socis were gonna vote…
Well that sucks I thought Rosell was going to let the Socios vote. It was what he was chanting about in all of his campaign, TRANSPARENCY, if he doesn't allow them to vote than were is the transparency. He should definitely allow them to vote, the socios, I mean that gives them more power.
I do not understand whats good about rosell. It looks like a guys who is super jealous without class and will sink barca this season
yep
Wow, I hate Suarez for this! I hope Uruguay get destroyed by Holland! :p.
But he literally saved Uruguay. :p
i wanted ghana to win too
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I hated what he did too, I thought it was very unjust BUT Ghana never took advantage, my belief is if you miss the chance to score and finish the game like in that penalty situation then it equals out. The only credit I give to Suarez is that he did it for his NATION I mean it would take a lot to sacrifice not playing the semis in order for your team to have the chance to go into penalties. We'll see how far that Uruguayan hand lasts for them, but honestly I believe Holland will get past them.
lol hahaha look at all of you thinking you know what goes on behind close doors, complaining and crying about rosell and he hasn't even been in office a week yet.
i like cruyff to but if he was appointed honorary president the wrong way then it should be corrected. i'm really disappointed in many of you who have become nothing more than overreacting know it all, has the success gotten to you already. you treat rosell like ronaldo, your mind is set on hating him and just follow him till he does something you don't like so you can just stand up and shout "see i told you he was no good". seems like a pitiful life to me.
1 question? if cruyff meant so much to you before then why do you care whether he has some title of honorary president or not? before that title he came to 3/4 if not all our games, he gave us this system, he gave us the first dream team, he still gives pep and players advice. HP or not cruyff is still that person no cule will ever forget so who cares if someone else gets it, i know one thing. cruyff is the biggest barca legend in my book and that's all i need to know.
Actually it was Dynamo Kiev and Lobanovsky that created total football. Not the Dutch in the 70s. Just look it up.
i know cruyff didn't create it, i meant it as we started to excel when he brought the system to barca using the 3-4-3 formation.
Cruyff didnt bring it to Barca. Rinus Michels did (who is one of the pioneers of Total football, as Lobanovsky). He also taught cruyff almost all what he know (as Johan himself repeatedly admitted). But Cruyff had the dream team and managerial stability to succeed while using it, so he took the credit (rightfully).
Just to point out a common mistake.
Thanks for schooling Marc4Barca who thinks he knows everything about barca
oh give it a rest little boy i have no time for your childish antics. if you don't like me then just stay away.
yeah i knew that already, i read soren's comments before i posted this and looked it up, always nice to find out something new. the key word in my sentence was "excel" and the common mistake was the word "back". it was a typo, it was suppose to be "he brought the system *back* to barca". thanks anyway.
EXACTLY Thank you for your unbiased and very professional point of view. ++++++++++++++++
If this is true- I'm expecting Pepsi or some other shit on our shirts soon as well…
Please, let that not be true. It puts the club in a very bad light. Here's the honorary president. Everybody in the world knows who Cruyff is and how much he did for Barca. Oh no, wait a minute- he's not anymore, he's stripped of that title. Just think how it looks from the outside. It looks absolutely shambolic.
It looks bad, but if he was appointed the wrong way, then I guess this is justified… What does the honorary president do anyways?
I completely agree with Marc4barca.
I respect Cruyff as much as anyone, but he is not Barca, the socios are Barca. If he is to be made honorary president it should be by the voice of socios, not at a sudden whim of Laporta. He had no right giving this title to Cruyff, not only is it against the club charters, it´s selvfish and arrogant.
Rossell is just setting things right.
Besides Rinus Michels should have been awarded a such title before Cruyff. He brought "Totalfootball" to Barca and was the founder of the way the team plays today. He trained Cruyff.
It should be awarded to Lobanovsky and Kiev actually.
www, Rinus Michels get as much credit as Lobanovsky for bing a total football innovator. Taking the differences between their styles, we are something in between but historically closer to what Rinus philosophy stands for. Though Pep "Labonized" and tweeted it a bit.
But i don't think any of them deserve being Honorary president for Barca. Both offered much more to football than Cruyff, but what Johan did for the club as a player, coach and later as a mentor is incomparable (lets not that he was one of the main reasons Laporta and Sandro won the elections after the dark ages).
It may not have been completely clear, but I did mean that Rinus took Totalfootball to Barca, not that he invented it.
Pep may have taken som inspiration from Lobanovsky, but Michels is the one who created "The Barca style" almost 40 years ago. The team has played his way ever since.
As much as I love Cruyiff I really am getting tired of this. He has been having a hand in all the business of Barcelona for the last decade. No matter who the president or the coach was, Cruyiff has always had a word in it. He resigned officially from the club but he still needs to control it. I think this is totally wrong!
Who ever becomes the president or coach should have the power to decide without Cruyiff putting his power in. If he has resigned officially and does not want any official role in the club, so I think that he shouldn't just stand aside and make desicions without taking any responsibility for them.
I think this is the reason why Rosell resigned. Who ever makes the desitions should be responsible for them! Cruyiff has pulled back from Barcelona because he says he has a bad heart. But he still wants to make desisions. WRONG!
So as much as I like the guy he needs to make one desicion. In the club or outside the club. Not outside with some kind of advisor role, please.
To be Honest,I cant blame Sandro for doing this,its his opinion and we should respect,I do blame Laporta for giving Cruyff that Title without taking into his consideration that there will be a new president in 2 months and it was easy to know that Sandro(who is not a fan of Laporta)will prefer to do somethings which is anti-laporta and this is the first move.Laporta is the man to blame not Sandro.
Laporta thought it was a popular move but people saw it as politics and were against it. Rosell has the support of most of the club on this sadly
Even if you want to blame Laporta for not having the foresight to know that Rosell would try to be vindictive.
Rosell is still the one being vindictive and trying to embarrass Laporta which also hurts the club's image. The position had no negative impact on Barca, it was a powerless PUBLIC RELATIONS position people…
What does Rosell's 'opinion' have to do with it? If it's his opinion and you don't blame him, then why are you blaming Laporta for his opinion of honoring Cruyff? God some people are so clueless…
Rosell's job is to act in the best interest of the club. If he does things to satiate his own desire to be anti-Laporta then you SHOULD be blame him. This whole event creates a negative image for the club and the only reason it happened was because of Rosell's PERSONAL agenda. Why wouldn't you blame him?
Youre being extremely shortsighted. Nobody will care about this in a week, but the club cant have presidents creating honorary positions for their advisors at the end of every term without due process.
Forget all this…none of this plays a part in the real issues affecting the club, lets hope Rosell makes the correct decisions when signing players and I hope he starts with not signing Torres.
I was impressed with Felipe Melo during this world cup until today, but I guess he ain't a good or cheap back up option but what a pass to robinho.
I also think Barca should have bought Lucio from bayern last season, he didn't cost much and has the abilities which guardiola wasted 25million on Chygy for and that is bringing the ball forward and even playing wonderful passes, he would have given 2-3 years service and Muniesa and co would have learn't from him…..but theres no point talking about something which is gone but Im just thinking about what goes through peps mind at times. We could have also bought Llorente from Bilbao last year for much cheaper than Ibra as a Plan B which Pep wanted…see the difference he made against Portugal when he came on?.
Totally agree. These are the important decisions and I mentioned both of these two players before we went on and bought Ibra and Chygrynsky. It's really strange what goes on in Pep's mind sometimes.
Labonovsky didn't even start managing until almost ten years after Rinus Michels had invented total football. He used computers to keep track of stuff and involved psychology in his management but had nothing to do with total football, which Ajax demonstrated as early as 1966 in European competition.
Read this Will:
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/world…
Labonovsky was a football genius, so as Michels.Its never either this or that. Coming from someone who read their books, watched recorded games and interviews for them. I am a big fan. For both.
Good decision. This was a kinda "shady" move by Laporta anyways. He had no right. Don't talk as if Laporta is a saint and Rosell is the devil.
A 'shady' move to honor the man who brought the football philosophy the club has adopted ever since? Total football has become Barca's unyielding identity and honoring that man is wrong? It was just a honorary title.
Laporta may not be a saint, but did you just forget the last 6-7 years of the club? Laporta is the most successful president Barca's ever had. Rosell couldn't put his ego aside and quit on the club after a year in the new era because he couldn't stand Laporta getting all the headlines. It's pretty clear who cared about the club and who was only in it for their own fame.
If Sandro Rossell will treat Johan Cruyff disrespectfully and can't see what a great contribution Cruyff has made to bring FCBarcelona where it is today, the future will show that Barca members have voted a new president who is only there for his own ego, his own career, his own selfish reasons. If he fails to give credit to the people who made Barcelona the great club which it is today, famous throughout the world for it's attractive offensive football, the successful teams with 'homegrown' players, it's charitywork( things which were all inspired by Johan Cruyff), he shows himself a very little man, who does not deserve to be president of Barca!
Rosell is am idiot and that was a cheap shot. I want to like him nut man,, what a jerk
Now what is this? Why do you guys whine about this? Before you start criticizing Sandro, first of all, what is the 'job scope' of this holy position of 'Honorary President'? I like Cruyff, coz he did so much for us. But now in 2010 all he has done is writing his criticisms in newspaper, and not much anything else. If he wants to join our board, he should do it the proper way, by presenting out his ideas, his vision, and what not. Unless you guys are schoolkids, you should know what I'm talking about. A strong company shall never hire a person to be included in management just on sentimental basis.
if the 'job scope' is nothing, why so eager to take the title away? rosell needs to prove himself, we don't just have to accept him.
Yes, Rosell do need to prove himself, that's normal for all newly elected Pres. But he was selected by the election, by getting the highest number of vote in the entire history of Barca. Why should we criticize him straight away? He should have his reasons.
OK, I hope your "clever politician" Rosell will guide this Barca to achieve more (titles, respect, fame and love) than Laporta.
By the way, you kid! This is a football club, not a COMPANY. Go to England if you want to be a fan of a company!
And you kid, this is not a football club, this is a sporting club, which have their own handball, basketball, hockey teams. Why should a football legend become the 'honorary figure'?
What is the difference if I said 'company' or 'association' or 'organization' or whatnot? My point is still valid. In order to join a board of director for any sorts of organization, one should at least have vision of the future of the club.
A company is an organization FOR PROFIT and doing commercial business.
Yeah, FCB is a sporting organization, but football is what it's most famous about, so what's wrong with an honorary presendent title for a football legend?
About vision, don't you think that TOTAL FOOTBALL is a main part of our whole vision?
(Remember you are playing on this site, its name is TotalBarca!)
Nice explanation about what company is, but does it bring any difference to my intention/idea? You are twisting words too much.
Total Football was his vision during early 90s. Now that vision of his is being carried by somebody else. If Barca elect him as the 'honorary president', what should he do with his power? Or the more mind boggling question is: what is exactly his power in FC Barcelona? Just a statue?
Don't wanna argue about what he can do or cannot do for FCB if he was honorary president or not.
What I think about is: Is it really necessary or is it good for Rosell to take such an action?
I think this guy is feeling jealous of Laporta's success and jealousy's just driving him crazy!
Before you think what should Rosell do, you have to think should the position exist at the first place? You have to understand the thing that you try to defend. In this case, its the position of 'Honorary Pesident'.
IMO Laporta's action should be questioned instead: why did he appoint Cruyff with such position, without consulting the socis? Did he have such power? He is surely not the king/owner of FCB.
And Rosell's jealosy you just said is purely your imagination/thought, at least by considering current situation. Its not a fact.
There's no point debating with some of the halfwits here. You'll find more value in talking to a wall.
Um, what does the name of this website have at all to do with the appointment of some honorary president?
I'm just hoping this guy doesn't **** up my Barca!!!
You guys have no understanding of democracy and the proper political process, Rosell is absolutely right about this being undemocratic. What the hell is an honorary president? You cant just create a position at the end of your presidency in an attempt to create some "official" position for your advisor. Laporta disrespected the true owners of the club by creating it. The Socios never had any say in the matter. Of course this bogus symbolic position should be discontinued, there is only one president and he is elected. Well played Rosell.
grow up. this is not about democracy. whether or not the position should exist, there are better ways of going about removing it from someone who is basically providing free PR to the club. surely there are more useful things sandro rosell could do to make his impact as club president.
you dont have to drink the koolaid just because it is put in front of you.
Since when is it a presidents role to create honorary positions for his advisors? Cruyff is going to weigh in with his opinion regardless of whether or not he is "honorary president", free PR from him comes without asking for it. It was never Laporta's place to create the position, in that regard it is about democracy. It was a selfish political gesture and didn't reflect the stance of the club owners at all. The position should never have existed and Laporta intentionally created an awkward situation. Sandro is just doing whats appropriate under the statutes of the club.
You're clueless. The position had no meaning other than to honor Cruyff who is a big influence on the club's playing style & philosophy. It's also a subtle homage to the original Dream Team of the 90s.
This has nothing to do with democracy. This is Sandro Rosell trying to embarrass Cruyff & Laporta's legacy. It's cheap politics played by Rosell to get back at his 'enemies'. This has nothing to do with 'what's right'. Rosell is a dirt bag and if Guardiola hadn't won 6 titles he would have been the first one replaced this summer to make room for Rosell's hand picked coach. Right now Rosell can't change coaches since Pep's such a fan favorite, but it's coming.
well said john. im concerned for our club.
To honour Cruyff? What? Barca have only 1 legend in the whole history of its 100 years existence? Why should only Cruyff be honored as such? To us Cruyff is outstanding, but to the Catalans they have their own figures as well. This is what Rosell try to point out. That position of Honorary President is pointless. If we want to honor him, we can give him a special sit within the board, not as the another 'president'.
oh well said, im now convinced. sandro rosell for god!
good!
really? even as a joke? get over sandro rosell.
absolutely agree with you!
Hasn't it occured to you that Laporta was the one who started the cheap politics by creating the position to begin with? It puts future presidents in an extremely awkward position because not all of them will have the same relationship with Cruyff as Laporta did. It was a purely selfish move by Laporta and even though the position holds no function, it is still a piece of political propaganda that really has no place at the club. You have such a negative view on Rosell and he hasn't even done anything except what was appropriate for the club.
If this was true then it's absolutely a scandal!!!
I don't know what the hell Rosell wants to do with this Barca.
as a non catalan and non EU club member, i feel very excluded by rosell.
And according to this, Cruyff actually returned the insignia of the 'title' willingly
http://www.sport.es/default.asp?idpublicacio_PK=4…
drink the koolaid up matyrze!! you must be in love!!
I'm trying to get you guys straight. I want all cules here think critically. Read, think about the pros and cons, and type your comment, only then the comment section in this site will be a pleasure to read
You'll find that half of them don't have the ability to think.
I have no time for Rossell, but it's sickening to see all the Laporta love. The man was a snake.
And it seems like Rosell ain't much better…
Nobody's perfect dude.People who always compete for top position in any organization, they all have similarities to some extend: hypocrisy. But the time for Laporta is up, and Rosell's challenger during election didn't show much either. That one we all must accept it. Rosell did the best during the build up to the election.
Anyone who is defending Rosell for this does not know shit about being a class act. As a President, Rosell's first objective should be to maintain a positive image of the club and prevent any controversy if at all possible. He should have presented the issue to the socis and had them decide if the title is valid without using the media to humiliate an icon. Instead, he doesn't even wait 48 hours and already has caused a fiasco out of a situation that could have been quite preventable. If this is the guy's style, I can already tell you that we are going to go through a lot of soap operas in the coming future and i'm afraid sooner or later acts such as this will distract the team and affect the team's image and their on-the-field-results. This big fuckup is not enough to have me say that he's a bad President already, but as a diehard and objective fan who is trying to give Rosell the benefit of the doubt, he just lost a lot of points in my eyes. By the end of 2010, we should have a clear picture of what this guy is all about and in what direction he's planning on taking Barca.
This is a rather good decision realized in a very bad way.
I could aree with that. Because maybe Cruyyfs title shoud have been given in a slightly different way, but… to take it away straight away like this is basically humiliating a Barcelona legend… And now what- let's say they decide to give it to him again? And do the whole ceremony again? Seriously?
guys what is going on?let's hope he doesn't stop us from sponsoring UNICEF which gives us a special aura in the world.If true about cryuff,then it gives me fear and anxiety
I hope he does remove the Unicef shit from our shirt!
I wonder if Guardiola and Xavi will be happy with a president who shows little respect for Johan Cruyff.
that's it Xavi,guardiola,rijkaard…will not be happy. what point is it?he must be joking.
where is pep the man who directed us to this bolg?anyone who knows his whereabouts?
You can follow him through twitter I believe: http://twitter.com/barcastuff
In one way he's right, should be democratic if the club wants a honorary president. On the other way, Cruyff is a legend for the club and he deserves to be a honorary president. Socios will vote.. lets hope Cruyff gets back his this "lost" status.
Sandro is a fuckin' classless mother fucker!
Sandro will really be embaressed if Cruyff retains his position !! Laporta for ever !!
If this news is true, it is a bad sign.
Here I sit, thousands of miles away, and like so many around the world cherish Barca for its wonderful players and its benevolent ways – so what am I to do with this news???
Do these guys know what they are doing??